On this episode we talk with Ellen Shapiro.

Ellen is a mobile developer based in Chicago, Illinois. She agreed to hang out with us and shoot the breeze about life, development, and starting over.

Be sure to stick around for the After Show. You know… so you can find out what happens After the Apocalypse.

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Episode 16 – Ellen Shapiro